Simran Chana confirmed; McClellan, Margolis, the Aspen bar, Peggy Hamburg and the FDA meeting; Shelley Lyford — Hare's account, verbatim

Confirm Simran Chana - i was just messaging him on WhatsApp. He's my buddy.

Can you describe in more detail what you mean by the twelve narrators' rooms.

Also add entries for Mark B. McClellan, who I know well, starting at his time at Brookings Institution (I knew his primary funder there - a patent attorney I met at Aspen Institute, who bought a Gulf Stream 650 and was learning to fly it when I first met him. He thought that Mark McClellan was great but way to friendly with the establishment - he wanted something more disruptive, so he cut off funding). Then McClellan moved to the Duke Margolis Center iwth a lot more funding. I know Margolis - Jack Lewin and I had dinner with him once at Brailer's Health Evolution Summit. He's very very nice. I met Mark McClellan at the Aspen Health Summit, I believe in 2009, because I also met Margaret Hamburg there at the VIP lounge / bar where speakers check in. I didn't know who she was, but I thought she was very attractive for the Aspen speaker circuit, so I introduced myself and we had a nice drink at the bar. And then Deepak Chopra came up and sat with us - he was giving the main keynote, but I didn't recognize him... he reminded me of a dozen hindu buddhist gurus I knew from my Ashram days. I only recognized who he was when he was on stage giving the keynote, and I noticed that a bunch of supermodels started showing up, led by Elle McPherson - they all sat at the front table right in front of the stage. That is actually how I met Shelley Lyford (Shelley Valentine in those days), who was President of the West Health Institute - they all sat down at her table, probably because Shelley was so beautiful they thought it was the table reserved for beautiful people. Shelley is beautiful in every possible way, and we became very good friends, and came very close to becoming great friends by taking a vacation to Mexico, but sadly she got the flu at exactly the wrong time, when I visited her up at her place in Orange County when she was single very briefly. Shelley will always be one of those wonderful experiences that I *almost* had that got away. I'll carry that one to my grave! Shelley always made me want to be a better person, and I am now. (Hi Shelley!)

For Margaret Hamburg, she was at Aspen Health to speak about food supply chain safety (I think Chinese dairy or pet food had poisined a bunch of children or puppies as they periodically do, so it was an emergency.) I spoke with her again after her talk, mentioned that Eric Haseltine was on my board and also my Chief Scientist at Resilient Network Systems, and I described how our Trust Network could uniquely solve the food supply-chain safety problem - and in fact, could solve any supply chain problem. She asked if I could arrange for a three-way meeting with her, me and Eric Hasletine back in DC at her offices at the FDA, which I did not maybe a couple of months later. Eric, Peggy Hamburg, Vicki Seyfert Margolis (Peggy's chief innovation and science advisor), and I met for three hours, and Peggy (who it turns out already knew the whole Haseltine family - but didn't have Eric's personal phone number, and didn't know how to reach him after he left as CTO for the Director of National Intelligence), quizzed him on how the intelligence community figured out how the share data across agencies, and how she could satisfy Francis Collin's request that the FDA share data with the NIH, when all of their techies and compliance people said they couldn't.

Eric responded that the intelligence community could barely share data within a single agency, let alone across agencies or with foreign coalition partners (e.g. in Afghanistan). He also suggested that Resilient Networks Systems was the only company he had seen that had a viable approach. Vicki Seyfert was assigned to be the lead on an FDA wide pilot. Since then, Jack Lewin and I have met numerous times with almost every FDA commissioner since - Robert Califf, Scott Gottlieb, Janet Woodcock, and many times with Mark McClellan. We worked very closely with all of the division chiefs - CDER, CDRH, CBER, and with various the Secretaries of HHS, adminstrators of CMS, commissioner of the NIH (mostly Francis Collins, Florence Hasletine, etc), AHRQ (Carolyn Clancy), VA, etc. Add slugs for those, so we can fill them in via a search of emails.