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Zoom sessions — Marc Singer & Jonathan, the condensed pair (May 18–19, 2026)

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Recorded 2026-08-29From the corrected Zoom transcript archive (Archival Source Record v6, Part XVIII), the archive's condensed session records, verbatim. Zoom consent basis per S-129; published under the ruling of S-134.All sources
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Dictated by Jonathan Paul Hare in working sessions with Claude (Anthropic) and transcribed in-session. Lightly cleaned for typographic errors and false starts; wording, sequence and emphasis preserved. Not an audio transcript. Where the distilled page differs from the source, the source governs.

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Session 1: Marc Singer & Jonathan (May 18, 2026)

Context: Launching the QPN via Hedera, addressing dual-use architecture and the 99.3% probability of cascade.

JONATHAN HARE: We've got two new patents. It's been the most productive period of my life for the last six months. It's 700 claims across two initial patents. It's basically everything. What we've added is a quantum privacy catalyst network, which crowdsources the whole network as rewards. We had to come up with a new form of financial instrument: quantum privacy tokens and derivatives. Because these tokens are perpetual claims on a percentage of the world economy, nobody could afford to buy them. There are five different ways to launch a network: enterprise cascade, grassroots cascade, investment cascade, sovereign cascade, or pool-first cascade from the liquidity pool. They are all independent. Claude estimates a 99.3% chance of getting a cascade, and once it goes, it explodes. It came up with a valuation for just the EP3 tokens for 75 years—it's $100 trillion dollars. It's monstrous, and those estimates are actually conservative. So we need somebody to launch it. How about Hedera? They have everything we need. They have the token platform for financing, for the privacy network exchange, for the quantum privacy derivatives. Look at the members of their governing council or strategic partners—they have active live deployments of real systems which we can repurpose as dual-use. It's all open source. You don't need board approval. If you want to start asking permission, you'll lose out to Microsoft or somebody else. It can be any large organization. Who gets there first gets the QP reward. MARC SINGER: And you're not asking for any capital on the front end. JONATHAN HARE: No, but we want it anyways to keep it centralized and organized, so it's not everybody trying to do it for themselves. Not everybody is Microsoft or Google; who said they get to be the Lord God Kings of the universe? We'll raise money. These are the rewards during the pioneer rewards phase. We just need awareness. We literally need people to know this. It would be a violation of fiduciary duty not to immediately announce it. Companies can form an enterprise accelerator anytime they want, or a portfolio accelerator. They could empty their balance sheet and invest in this stuff because it'd be the best investment they've ever had. We have what are called contribution graphs. So if somebody reaches out first, whoever that is, say, reaching out to the top person with authority to credibly commit the organization, that gives everybody else air cover. That person will make a ton of money. If someone wants to do due diligence, great—while you're doing your due diligence, somebody else announces it and you just lost 90%. So don't wait. Anybody on the planet can do this with every form of protection. You cannot deny this. If you sign off on this stuff publicly, you'll make billions of dollars. If you don't, everybody's like, 'What the hell did you say no for? You just screwed us all.'

Session 2: Marc Singer & Jonathan (May 19, 2026)

Context: Reviewing the ecosystem valuation models, the Laggard Penalty, and the architectural fit for global distribution.

JONATHAN HARE: I was dredging up my documents. I've calculated for every company—BCG, NVIDIA, whatever—the value of the ecosystem if they do the outreach. This quantifies how much more you make than your current estimated value. There's also the laggard penalty. If you're not a first-tier participant, you lose it. You were late? Sorry, too late. Somebody else got it. Any single organization can trigger the whole thing. Take Hedera as an example. They have the core token infrastructure. They have the governance council and strategic partners. All these people have active live deployments. The whole thing used to be worth $20 billion, now it's worth like five or seven. All you have to do is reach out to these people. Sign one of these partnering agreements—anybody can do it. You don't have to wait for the boss. You don't have to wait for consensus. The first one to reach out benefits. You're doing the ecosystem a favor because it gave you a chance to be first. But other people sitting there picking their noses, they're screwing everybody. We have list of activation milestones. Make an intro, follow up, do a referral, schedule a meeting—those are all worth something, they're part of a graph. We've validated every claim we make. It's all validated to high assurance, it's all documented. You don't need to be doing the math; you just need to reach out to people. If you get a big dog, a Tier 1, to announce it in a believable way, boom, you just made $40 billion dollars. There are different modes to record your contributions. Active Capture, Directed Capture (CC or BCC the Catalyst agent on an email), Ambient Capture, Institutional Processing, and Evangelism. Nobody can know. It's all trade secret. You are not allowed to tell. You have a constitutionally protected right to evangelize stuff like this. Nothing leaves your shop. A privacy-driven record of a contribution graph means you're doing your company a favor moving them forward while the company is ignoring it. This goes into a Quantum Privacy Cell—a Delaware series LLC. Nobody knows it exists. If you are an autocrat and you convert, you'll make a ton of money, but your apparatus can make money too. Your people can participate anonymously. We have jurisdictional optionality with entangled tokens. This thing runs everywhere simultaneously. You cannot detect it, you have no jurisdiction over us. People have the opportunity to live their lives. They'll embrace it because it's the right thing to do and autocrats can't fight it. What do they do in Iran or Russia? They have an apparatus they pay to suppress people. Those people will make far more over here. There's nothing you can do to stop it. MARC SINGER: The McKinsey Global Institute put out a book called 'The Century of Progress'. It makes the case that in 100 years, the poorest people in the world could have a standard of living equivalent to Switzerland today. They don't claim to know all the mechanisms. They just say you have to almost believe our ability to innovate would suddenly stop otherwise. And this is an example of what that innovation might be. JONATHAN HARE: I gave a bunch of McKinsey data to the AI. The first five years were McKinsey numbers. The AI came up with actually higher growth expectations because of this system. People are not good at predicting the future. We can take any resource, any potential, put it in this giant liquidity pool, and then you don't need money anymore. What is money? A store of value and a medium of exchange. Anything you trade through the exchange puts a price on it. We tokenize it all. It's an infinitely scalable store of value that scales with the economy in a non-inflationary way with no limits.

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The opening pair of the Singer conversations, in the archive's own condensed form: the two new patents and 700 claims; the quantum privacy tokens and derivatives as a new instrument class, described architecturally as in the published corpus; the five independent launch cascades with the estimated 99.3% cascade probability; and the Hedera launch argument. Singer's question — 'And you're not asking for any capital on the front end.' — is preserved where it fell, and the record notes it as contemporaneous corroboration of the author's characterization in S-134: an offer of a role, not a solicitation of capital. Published as a historical account of an offer made in good faith and declined.

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