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Adobe, Warnock and Geschke — Hare's answer on the Adobe founders, verbatim

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Recorded 2026-08-31Hare's message in the integrator thread, 31 August 2026, transcribed verbatim with spellings preserved ('Gesechke'). Answers the Geschke question of S-184. Recorded grade.All sources
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Dictated by Jonathan Paul Hare in working sessions with Claude (Anthropic) and transcribed in-session. Lightly cleaned for typographic errors and false starts; wording, sequence and emphasis preserved. Not an audio transcript. Where the distilled page differs from the source, the source governs.

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I've met many people at Adobe, and knew lots of people that knew Warnock and Charles Gesechke, but they weren't the types to hang out with college students or wet behind the ear Stanford MBAs, and weren't really the evangelical types that hobnobbed at conferences

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Executed in v72h. Geschke: answered — not met; connections through Adobe people who knew both founders; no node (the record does not build a person from second-hand acquaintance). Warnock: this record describes the Adobe founders together as men he knew through others, while S-183 lists Warnock among those he has 'met and have connections to'. The two are not necessarily in conflict — connections through others is what S-183 may have meant for Warnock — but the record cannot tell, so the john-warnock page carries both statements and asks. Paul Berg remains the one open name from S-184.

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