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What Freeman actually pleaded to

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Recorded 2026-08-15Dictated in sessionAll sources
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Dictated by Jonathan Paul Hare in working sessions with Claude (Anthropic) and transcribed in-session. Lightly cleaned for typographic errors and false starts; wording, sequence and emphasis preserved. Not an audio transcript. Where the distilled page differs from the source, the source governs.

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As dictated

I remember what Robert pleaded to — this was our biggest case, and we read everything about it in real time.

What he pleaded guilty to is: there is one particular trade where there's a guy whose nickname was Bunny. Marty told him, hey, I heard Bunny say blah blah blah about this deal. And Robert Freeman said, your bunny has a good nose. So that's what he confessed to — which was probably true, who knows. And that's something the entire industry does.

Did Giuliani ever do any insider trading in his life? Did he go to jail for it?

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Editorial record

The detail is correct and the sequence runs the other way. Bunny was Bernard Lasker, a former chairman of the New York Stock Exchange. Freeman had heard from Lasker that the Beatrice buyout was in trouble, telephoned Siegel to check, and on Siegel confirming it said your bunny has a good nose — then sold. That exchange is the basis of the single count of mail fraud he pleaded to in 1989.

Hare recalled the line accurately after nearly forty years, which is the kind of retrieval discussed on the page about how this record was made.

Not carried across: the closing rhetorical questions about Rudy Giuliani. Hare's characterisation of the prosecution is already recorded as his opinion on the Freeman page; a rhetorical question implying unproven conduct by a named living person is a different thing and is not published as a claim.

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