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I've met Freeman Dyson many times, through my friend Esther Dyson and her brother George Dyson. He used to come to PC Forum and Santa Fe Institute events, and he knew my grandfather — especially because of Project Orion. He also taught me the constellations, when I mentioned that my astronomy professor at UC Berkeley (who specialized in ultraviolet astronomy) said that studying constellations was a waste of time — since that was astrology, not astronomy. Freeman disagreed — he said that astronomy emerged from the study of astrology and the stars, and that we should respect our elders, even the dead ones from millennia ago. Since we were standing by a pool in the desert up on a mountain in Santa Fe at the time, he showed me four constellations, just by looking up.
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